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I am just starting to compile the Blake Newsletter for the 1 January 2016. It will be Volume 5. This is one item I hope to continue with into the future even though I will at some point in the coming years stop active research on the Blake families other than my own. I hope to bring together a group of Blake researchers however, in the DNA project, who will actively work on their lines and be sources for information for other Blake members seeking to find their ancestral line.

I can not really say based on the DNA results whether you can expect your line in any particular area. Even my own line is most commonly found (by DNA results) in Irelandand my line on paper is going back into the early 1400s at Knights Enham near Andover. R1b is found all over the British Isles and one distinct line is in the Wiltshire/Dorset area going back hundreds of years. It is also found in Ireland with a distinct line showing up for some Galway Blake descendants that have grouped themselves and work actively amongst themselves improving on the knowledge for that line.

Blake though can be found throughout history in the British Isles in a number of areas as land holders, merchants, craftsmen and labourers. Historically Blake has played a large role at many time periods in the British Isles.

I am though noticing the time is passing and I do want to get into some of my own research once again so that I do know that the number of years that I will continue actively researching in lines other than my own is starting to draw to a close.

If anyone has any entries for the next newsletter please do send them on to me at kippeeb@rogers.com. I tend to keep the newsletter to two pages unless I have other copy to put in. I do not mind how long it gets if there is Blake information to add. I could fill it with wills and other documents but I have blogged on a goodly number of them and a quick search on the blog may reveal information to you that would be helpful in your research.

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to all. Other than my 52 Ancestor Challenges (three remain to publish) I do not think I will be doing much new blogging in the next few weeks. I must admit to missing my regular life of transciption of wills and writing blogs but time has disappeared and I doubt that I am going to find great amounts of it again in the near future.

I am in the midst of organizing all my material for a couple of projects that will then keep me organized into the future hopefully.

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William Cheatle

December 12, 2015, 7:12 am

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52 Ancestor Challenge - Challenge 50

Blake, King, Coleman, Pearce, Farmer, Mary (unknown), Lambden, Sarah (unknown), Knight, Ellis, Knight, Vincent, Butt, O'Ford, Arnold, Molton, Cotterell, Bartlett, Alderman, Shepherd, Sherwood, Elizabeth (unknown), Happerfield, Collins, Rawlings, Tanner, Dove, Morgan, Lywood, Lanham, unknown, Peck, Pincombe, Charley, Rowcliffe, Pearse, Rew, Moggridge, Siderfin, Kent, Gray, Hilton, Cobb, Sproxton, Routledge, Tweddle, Routledge, Routledge, (unknown) Buller, unknown, Beard, Hemsley, Welch, Brockhouse, Cheatle, unknown, unknown Taylor, unknown, Harborne, Lewis, Roberts, Croxall, Lawley, unknown

Reaching the last three of my 52 Ancestor Challenge, I know that what I write on these three individuals is more tentative than anything I have written on the first 49.

William Cheatle is the name that appears on the marriage registration of Sarah Cheatle and William Welch as a witness. Sarah Cheatle and William Welch both sign the marriage registration with their own hand as does William Cheatle. The surname Cheatle is fortunately a rather unusual one found commonly in this time period in Leicestershire.

Sarah Welch does appear on the census of 1841, 1851, 1861, and 1871.

Information given for Sarah on these census:

Census Returns of England and Wales, 1841. Kew, Surrey, England: The National Archives of the UK, Warwick County, Birmingham RD, St. Phillip, Class: HO107; Piece 1146; Book: 2;  Enumeration District: 5; Folio: 25; Page: 5; Line: 11; William Welch household,  GSU roll: 464182.
Wm Walch Age: 45 Estimated birth year: abt 1796 Gender: Male Civil parish: Birmingham Hundred: Birmingham County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England
Registration district: Birmingham Sub-registration district: St Phillip. Household Members:
 Name Age Hary Walch  15  John Walch  15  Mary Walch  20  Sarah Walch  40  Wm Walch  45
Lower Temple St,1,Wm Walch,45,,Cook Shop,Not in county,
,,Sarah Walch,,40,,Not in county,
,,Mary Walch,,20,,Not in county,
,,John Walch,15,,Appren,Not in county,
,,Hery Walch,15,,Appren,WAR,
,,Ann Buller,,20,,Not in county,
,,Hery Buller,2,,,WAR,
,,Hery Cooper,50,,Male Servant,Not in county,

Census Returns of England and Wales, 1851. Kew, Surrey, England: The National Archives of the UK, Warwick county, Birmingham RD, Birmingham, Class: HO107; Piece: 2055; Folio: 342; Page: 20; Household Schedule 61, William Welch family, GSU roll: 87314. William Welch   Age:57    Estimated birth year:abt 1794   Relation:Head    Spouse's name:Sarah (born at Ashby de la Zouch abt 1796)  Gender:Male   Where born:Rugley, Staffordshire, England     Civil parish:Birmingham    Ecclesiastical parish:St Philip    County/Island:Warwickshire    Country:England      Registration district:Birmingham    Sub-registration district:St Philip    ED, institution, or vessel:14      Household schedule number:61  Household Members:Name AgeHenry Buckton  38 Mary A Roden  19 Hannah Tomlinson  21 Henry Welch  24 Sarah Welch  55 William Welch  57

Census Returns of England and Wales, 1861. Kew, Surrey, England: The National Archives of the UK, Warwick county, Aston RD,  St Silas, Class: RG9; Piece: 2182; Folio: 46; Page: 40; Household Schedule 175, Sarah Welch family, GSU roll: 542931.   Sarah Welch   Age:65    Estimated birth year:abt 1796   Relation:Head    Gender:Female   Where born:Ashby De La Zouch, Leicestershire, England     Civil parish:Aston    Ecclesiastical parish:St Silas    County/Island:Warwickshire    Country:England      Registration district:Aston    Sub-registration district:Erdington    ED, institution, or vessel:2    Household schedule number:175  Household Members:Name AgeEdward D Buller  11 Ellen Buller  8 Sarah Welch  65

Census Returns of England and Wales, 1871. Kew, Surrey, England: The National Archives of the UK, Warwick County, Aston RD, St Silas Town, Class: RG10; Piece: 3154; Folio: 58; Page: 9; Household Schedule 44, Sarah Welch family, GSU roll: 839234.
Sarah Welsh Age: 75 Estimated birth year: abt 1796 Relation: Head Mother's name: Ann Gender: Female Where born: Alford, Leicestershire, England Civil parish: Aston Ecclesiastical parish: St Silas Town: Aston Manor County/Island: Warwickshire Country: England
Registration district: Aston Sub-registration district: Erdington ED, institution, or vessel: 3 Household schedule number: 44 Household Members:
 Name Age Ann Buller  25  Ann Buller  57  Clemonent Buller  14  Ellen Buller  17  Louisa Buller  12  Sarah Welsh  75  Sarah Welsh abt 1796 Alford, Leicestershire, England Head Aston Warwickshire Ann Buller abt 1814 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Mother Aston Warwickshire
Ann Buller abt 1846 India, Middlesex, England Granddaughter Aston Warwickshire
Clemonent Buller abt 1857 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Grandson Aston Warwickshire
Ellen Buller abt 1854 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Granddaughter Aston Warwickshire
Louisa Buller abt 1859 Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Granddaughter Aston Warwickshire

Sarah Cheatle is said to be born at Ashby de la Zouch on the 1851 and 1861 census. The 1841 has her not born in Warwickshire. The 1871 census has her born at Alford according to the transcription but it doesn't actually look like that on the original census. It ends with ford but the letters preceeding that look more like Longford which is the place of birth of her daugher Ann (Welch) Buller. Ann is recorded as being born in Birmingham which is incorrect.


I have recorded previously the information which I found in the Ashby de la Zouch records for the Cheatle family in this time period:

Baptisms
27 Jun 1785 Benjamin son of Benjamin Cheatle baptized
16 Apr 1787 Richard son of Benjamin and Mary Cheatle baptized
30 Sep 1789 Sarah Cheatle daughter of William and Ann Cheatle
27 Sep 1790 Ann Cheatle daughter of William and Elizabeth Cheatle baptized
19 Sep 1790 John Cheatle son of Benjamin and Catherine baptized
15 Jun 1790 Simeon son of George and Ann Cheatle baptized
27 Dec 1791 Joseph son of Benjamin and Catherine Cheatle baptized
8 Apr 1793 William  son of William and Elizabeth Cheatle baptized
17 June 1794 James son of Benjamin and Mary Cheatle baptized
10 Nov 1793 Sarah daughter of Benjamin and Catherine Cheatle baptized
24 Jun 1794 Mary daughter of Joseph and Elizabeth Cheatle baptized
27 Jan 1795 Sarah baptized daughter of William and Sarah Cheatle
9 June 1802 William,  Elizabeth and Frances son and daughters of William and Ann Cheatle baptized
28 Mar 1804 Catherine daughter of William and Elizabeth Cheatle baptized
21 Sep 1804 Catharine daughter of Benjamin and Catharine Cheatle baptized

Marriages
6 March 1786 William Cheatle and Elizabeth Sherwin both of this parish by banns
28 April 1788 Benjamin Cheatle and Katherine Adams both of this parish by banns
12 Apr 1792 Joseph Cheatle and Elizabeth Hefford both of this parish by banns

Burials
28 Aug 1781 Sarah Cheatle buried
11 April 1790 Ann Cheatle buried
31 May 1793 Sarah Cheatle buried
7 June 1793 John Cheatle buried
1803 Joseph Cheatle buried
30 Dec 1804 Catherine Cheatle buried
8 Oct 1805 Elizabeth Cheatle buried
7 Feb 1807 Thomas Cheatle buried
20 Apr 1808 Ann Chettle buried
15 Mar 1808 Catharine Cheatle buried
11 Sep 1810 Benjamin Cheatle buried
28 Nov 1818 Elizabeth Cheatle buried 55 years
1818 Mary Cheatle buried 24 years


There are three baptisms for Sarah Cheatle at Ashby de la Zouch that could be considered possibilities. Although the one baptism in 1789 seems rather too old to be considered (six years older than stated). Sarah lives until 1872 when she is said to be 78 years of age giving her a year of birth of 1794. Sarah's death registration gives her a date of death of 26 Jul 1872 and if she was baptized 27 Jan 1795 then she would have been 77 years of age and in her 78th year. If baptized 10 Nov 1793 then 26 Jul 1872 she would have been 79 years of age.


One of the witnesses on the marriage registration was William Cheatle. Sarah at her marriage to William Cheatle 24 Aug 1818 would have been 23 years of age if born in 1795. All of the census have her born circa 1796. Two out of four have her born at Ashby de la Zouch. There isn't a marriage at Ashby de la Zouch for William and Sarah Cheatle.


I then investigated marriages in the area around Ashby de la Zouch for William Cheatle and Sarah (unknown). At the time I was doing this investigation eight years ago Find My Past was in its infancy but now searching on this database I am finding:

William Cheatle 21 (b c 1754) a widower married 11 Aug 1775 at Sutton Coldfield (his home parish was Loughborough Leicestershire) and Sarah Bonell 21 years of age and a widow of Sutton Coldfield Warwickshire.

William Cheatle married Sarah Woodcock at Castle Donnington 23 Feb 1773. Apprenticeship records show that this William (or another William Cheatle) is a master tailor at Castle Donnington (1775, 1776, 1778, 1794). The question is does this eliminate this couple as the parents of Sarah finding that he is still a master tailor at Castle Donnington in 1794? How likely was he to have moved? Plus the Sarah Cheatle buried at Ashby de la Zouch in 1793 is not likely to be their daughter Sarah which was my thinking pattern towards the possibility of their baptizing a second daughter Sarah at Ashby de la Zouch. I rather think that this pattern of thought ends with this new data.

What of the William Cheatle of Loughborough marrying Sarah Bonell in 1775? They would then have been in their 40s when Sarah was baptized in 1795 at Ashby de la Zouch. Cheatle is a very uncommon name and not finding a solution to William and Sarah baptizing a daughter Sarah in 1795 leaves me with a very solid brickwall for this family. Autosomal DNA has also been brought into play as I have an autosomal match with the Adcock family of Leicestershire and there was a William Cheatle baptized 7 Jan 1752 at All Saints Loughborough likely the son of William Cheatle and Elizabeth Adcock. Interestingly enough there is a William Cheatle marrying Sarah Bonell and he was of Loughborough. Is this the correct person as father of Sarah? He has possible features - married to Sarah but would they still be having children in the mid 1790s? The autosomal DNA is interesting. I have the parish registers for Loughborough and have not yet investigated them.
 
William Cheatle married Elizabeth Adcock 29 Mar 1749 at All Saints Loughborough

From the Parish Records for Loughborough:

Sarah daughter of William Cheatle baptized  7 May 1750 at Loughborough (father is a stockin[g]er)
Joseph son of William Cheatle baptized  29 Aug 1751 at Loughborough (father is a taylor)
William son of William Cheatle baptized 7 Jan 1752 at Loughborough (father is a stockin[g]er)
Elizabeth daughter of William Cheatle baptized 27 Feb 1754 at Loughborough (father is a stockin[g]er)
Charles son of William Cheatle buried 6 Jun 1756 at Loughborough
Joseph son of William Cheatle buried 9 Mar 1757 at Loughborough
Frances daughter of William Cheatle baptized 14 Nov 1757 at Loughborough (father is a stockin[g]er)
Hannah Cheatle buried 13 May 1760 at Loughborough
Samuel son of William and Elizabeth Cheatle baptized 1 Jun 1762 at Loughborough
Hannah daughter of William and Elizabeth Cheatle baptized 6 May 1764 at Loughborough; buried 16 Mar 1765 at Loughborough`
George son of William Cheatle baptized 15 May 1764 at Loughborough
George son of William and Elizabeth Cheatle baptized 24 Jul 1766 at Loughborough
Mary daughter of William and Elizabeth Cheatle baptized 11 Jun 1769 at Loughborough
John son of William Cheatle buried 25 May 1770 at Loughborough

Edward son of John and Sarah Cheatle baptized 7 Sep 1772 at Loughborough
Ann daughter of John and Sarah Cheatle baptized 18 Sep 1775 at Loughborough
Sarah daughter of John and Sarah Cheatle baptized 19 Jul 1778 at Loughborough
Mary daughter of John and Sarah Cheatle  baptized 3 Dec 1782 at Loughborough , taylor

William Cheatle buried 2 Jun 1773 at Loughborough
George son of William Cheatle deceased buried 28 Jun 1773 at Loughborough
Frances daughter of Widow Cheatle buried 19 Nov 1775 at Loughborough

Sarah daughter of William and Sarah Cheatle baptized 12 Feb 1777 at Loughborough
Sarah daughter of William and Sarah Cheatle buried 5 Mar 1777 at Loughborough

William Cheatle buried 27 Dec 1778 at Loughborough

Sarah wife of William Cheatle buried 17 Dec 1783 at Loughborough

Finding these two burials rather sets that this line does not come down to my Sarah Cheatle baptized at Ashby de la Zouch circa 1795.

I will though continue to check the Loughborough registers between 1793 to 1797 out of curiosity to see if I find a Sarah Cheatle. No sign of a Sarah Cheatle in these parish registers between these dates.

The Leicestershire parish records will be online over the next year or so and that may help to answer my question about the parents of Sarah Cheatle baptized 1795 at Ashby de la Zouch.

The first genealogy conference that I ever attended as a participant was back in 2003 and I remember sitting with my husband at a table for one of the luncheons and someone he knew joined us. This person, one of the speakers I think, said that in 10 to 15 years everything would be online. It is slowly coming to fruition.

Ancestry of William Cheatle possibly:

1. Elizabeth BLAKE
2. Helen Louise PINCOMBE (b 18 Oct 1916) - Westminster Township, Middlesex County, Ontario, Canada
3. Ellen Rosina BULLER (b 20 May 1886) - Birmingham Warwickshire England
4. Edwin Denner BULLER (b 8 Apr 1850) - Birmingham Warwickshire England
5. Ann WELCH (b 4 Jan 1820) - Ashby de la Zouch Leicester England
6. Sarah CHEATLE (b 27 Jan 1795) - Ashby de la Zouch Leicester England
7. William CHEATLE

Sarah, unknown wife of William Cheatle

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52 Ancestor Challenge - Challenge 51

Blake, King, Coleman, Pearce, Farmer, Mary (unknown), Lambden, Sarah (unknown), Knight, Ellis, Knight, Vincent, Butt, O'Ford, Arnold, Molton, Cotterell, Bartlett, Alderman, Shepherd, Sherwood, Elizabeth (unknown), Happerfield, Collins, Rawlings, Tanner, Dove, Morgan, Lywood, Lanham, unknown, Peck, Pincombe, Charley, Rowcliffe, Pearse, Rew, Moggridge, Siderfin, Kent, Gray, Hilton, Cobb, Sproxton, Routledge, Tweddle, Routledge, Routledge, (unknown) Buller, unknown, Beard, Hemsley, Welch, Brockhouse, Cheatle, unknown, unknown Taylor, unknown, Harborne, Lewis, Roberts, Croxall, Lawley, unknown

Initially this blog was titled Sarah Woodcock the wife of William Cheatle and they married at Castle Donnington and all of their children (known to me) were baptized there. However, the apprenticeship records show that William continued as a Master Taylor at Castle Donnington past 1795 so this two are not the parents of my Sarah Cheatle. Hence the new title "Sarah, unknown wife of William Cheatle." I do know that my Sarah Cheatle (wife of William Welch, mother of Ann Welch married to Henry Christopher Buller and my 2x great grandparents) was likely the Sarah Cheatle baptized at Ashby de la Zouch in 1795 daughter of William and Sarah Cheatle. There the mystery begins as I am unable to locate further information on this couple (my 4x great grandparents).

That her name was Sarah is revealed by the baptismal record. Also Sarah (Cheatle) Welch names one of her daughters Sarah.  Ann (Sarah's daughter) names one of her daughters Sarah. Edwin Denner Buller names one of his daughters Sarah. Coincidence, I have no idea really but Edwin is found on the 1861 census with his grandmother Sarah (Cheatle) Welch who was by then widowed. Occasionally my grandmother did speak about her father's family but not a great deal. Little items, her father served in the military and that record was finally found (he served in the socalled First Boer War). He had a leg injury and the records bear this out.

But what of Sarah wife of William Cheatle? That is still hidden from me and will probably remain that way until my access to the Leicestershire Parish Records improves. I have read through the Ashby de la Zouch records from the mid 1700s to the early 1800s. I think they must be from somewhere else coming to Ashby de la Zouch for whatever reason. Further access to records may help with placing William and Sarah Cheatle parents of Sarah Cheatle married to William Welch.

Ancestry of Sarah unknown:

1. Elizabeth BLAKE
2. Helen Louise PINCOMBE (b 18 Oct 1916) - Westminster Township, Middlesex County, Ontario, Canada
3. Ellen Rosina BULLER (b 20 May 1886) - Birmingham Warwickshire England
4. Edwin Denner BULLER (b 8 Apr 1850) - Birmingham Warwickshire England
5. Ann WELCH (b 4 Jan 1820) - Ashby de la Zouch Leicester England
6. Sarah CHEATLE (b 27 Jan 1795) - Ashby de la Zouch Leicester England
7. Sarah

The ARNOLD family of Milton Abbas, Dorset

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A flurry of emails back and forth discussing the Arnold family at Milton Abbas between myself and Jill Morley who has been collecting Arnold material for over 30 years. She runs an active Facebook group on the Arnold family.

Likely Jill and I are related but she is unable to find earlier material on her direct line.

My Arnold line has fallen neatly into place back into the 1600s at Milton Abbas but I am stuck there with James Arnold married to Sibyl unknown. Sibyl was buried at Milton Abbas 28 Jul 1673. This couple baptized six children at Milton Abbas.

Henry baptized 4 Jan 1651
Mary baptized 12 Sep 1654
unmamed baptized 18 Nov 1657; buried 19 Nov 1657
Ann baptized 27 Mar 1661
James baptized 4 Oct1663 (married Mary Hardy 1 Nov 1694 at MIlton Abbas)
John baptized 4 Oct 1663 (married Melionor Leave 17 Oct 1692 at MIlton Abbas)

These two younger sons trace their line down at Milton Abbas with my line being James Arnold married to Mary Hardy. They baptized six children at Milton Abbas.

Mary baptized 8 Mar 1694
James baptized 25 Feb 1697 (married Honor Lovell 26 Jun 1721 at MIlton Abbas)
John baptized 21 Apr 1702 (married Susannah (unknown) circa 1725)
Ann baptized 19 Oct 1704 (married Peter Hause)
Jane baptized 13 Apr 1712; buried 18 Aug 1712 at Milton Abbas
Jinny (Jane) baptized 4 Mar 1714

MA/4 1742 = this is the will of James ARNOLD of Milton Abbas dated 25 June 1742 Proved 8 August 1743 Mentions Wife: Mary ARNOLD Son: John ARNOLD Daughter: Mary wife of William Lovell Daughter: Ann wife of Peter House. Daughter: Jinny Appoints wife Mary as Executor

MA/3 1744 = this is the will of Mary ARNOLD (wife of the above) of Milton Abbas Mentions: son John ARNOLD Daughter: Mary wife of William Lovell Daughter: Ann wife of Peter House Grand daughter: Honor Daughter: Jinny executor

http://www.dorset-opc.com/Miscellaneous/ArnoldWills.htm

My ancestor was John Arnold married to Susannah and they baptized seven children at Milton Abbas.

John baptized 4 Aug 1725 (married to Hannah Norris 7 Jul 1751 at MIlton Abbas)
James baptized 1 Feb 1726
Jane baptized 29 Jan 1728
Mary born circa 1730 at MIlton Abbas
William baptized 26 Jan 1732 (married to Ann Riggs 4 May 1755 at Cheselbourne)
Susannah baptized 19 Mar 1734
Thomas baptized 21 May 1737

My line is John Arnold married to Hannah Norris and they baptized eight children at Milton Abbas.

Mary baptized 8 Apr 1752 (married to Stephen Elford 27 Apr 1780 at Milton Abbas)
John baptized 17 Mar 1754
Jane baptized 20 Oct 1756
Joseph baptized 24 Oct 1759 (married to Susanna Best 18 Jul 1781)
Hannah baptized 18 Aug 1762 (married to John Hooper 21 Mar 1791 at Milton Abbas)
Susannah baptized 2 Oct 1765
William baptized 21 Feb 1770 (married to Elizabeth Molton 30 Aug 1793 at Milton Abbas)
Ann born circa 1773 at Milton Abbas (married James Vacher 26 Jul 1796 at MIlton Abbas)

My line is William Arnold married to Elizabeth Molton and they baptized six children at Winterborne Whitchurch and three or four children at Winterborne Clenstone

Thyrsa baptized 25 Mar 1791 (married Robert Tuffin 3 May 1814 at Winterborne Stickland)
Abel baptized 11 Mar 1792 (married Mary Lewis 6 Feb 1816 at Winterborne Clenstone)
Charles baptized 1 Dec 1793
Hannah baptized 18 Jan 1795 (married Charles Butt 26 Dec 1820 at Winterborne Clenstone)
Jane baptized 10 Jul 1796
Mark baptized 25 Mar 1798
Sarah baptized 15 Sep 1799 (married Joseph Butt 7 Jun 1824 at Winterborne Clenstone)
Elim baptized 11 Jan 1801 (married Mary Ann Cuff 24 Apr 1821 at Winterborne Whitchurch)
Ann baptized 8 May 1802

Mark baptized 15 Jul 1821 at Winterborne Clenstone (married Emma Hook)
This last baptism was said to be the son of William and Elizabeth Arnold but it is 19 years after the baptism of Ann. Not impossible Elizabeth would have been 55 years of age.

My line continues down from Charles Butt and Hannah Arnold. They baptized seven children at Winterborne Stickland.

Thurza baptized 11 Mar 1821 (married Thomas Knight 10 Nov 1844 at Turnworth)
Abel baptized 15 Feb 1823 (married Martha Knight 8 Feb 1850 at Turnworth)
Josiah baptized 15 Jan 1826; buried 24 Jan 1826 at Winterborne Stickland
Louisa baptized 27 Jan 1827 (married Samuel Knight 7 Sep 1849 at Winterborne Stickland)
John born circa 1830 at Winterborne Stickland (married Jane Gumbleton 13 Apr 1857 at Winterborne Stickland)
Arthur baptized 5 Jan 1834 (married Jane Cross sep quarter 1853 in Blandford RD)
Nehemiah baptized 15 May 1836

Samuel Knight and Louisa Butt are my ancestors. Interesting that three Knight siblings married three Butt siblings. Samuel and Louisa baptized eleven children at Turnworth.

Maria Jane baptized 27 Jan 1850 (married Edward Blake 29 Oct 1870 at Upper Clatford)

This couple were my great grandparents and their son Samuel George Blake my grandfather. I have traced these lines down and only my grandfather and his younger brother Henry came to Canada with the rest of the family remaining in England. This family has kept in contact into the 2000s with my husband and I visiting the grandchildren of the youngest son of Edward Blake and Maria Jane Knight in 2008.

I did know from childhood that Charles Butt had married Hannah Arnold and that this family lived in the Winterborne area of Dorset. Going back from Hannah involved research on my part along with a cousin of mine Robert Arnold.

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Interestingly enough all these bouts of illness of the last few weeks reminds one that we are, none of us, protected from the effects of disease. My voice is gradually returning but as I was dealing with all of that I suddenly decided to do something that I have mulled about in my mind for absolutely ages. I need to record these thoughts in my living memory to remind me when I did begin and why!

I wanted to record my life as I have lived it. At first I thought I could do that with a book that I could list all the highlights and events from my birth onwards. That seemed to work for a short while but it really lacked the ability to have lots of pictures (I have lots of pictures as my husband is an avid photographer as was my father at some periods of his life) and stories around those pictures.

It was a project that I saw myself doing later; always later. Suddenly I began to think that 70 is probably later and that I should begin. Consequently the last couple of weeks in my spare time, instead of working on the Cornwall Census for the Blake family, I have been working on my life story. There was something else that inspired that idea as well but that is all in my story and my story is just for my personal family. I want all this information available in case somewhere in the future someone wonders about Great Grand Aunt Elizabeth or Great Great Great Grandmother (Blake) Kipp or whatever name I could be called in the future. As I have peered back into the past that is what is most missing from the stories of my families. Other than the flat paper records I do not know a lot about the people beyond my great great grandparents except in a few circumstances. My grandfather knew a number of his great grandparents and so I am taken back into the past on those few lines but otherwise just flat paper documents and a few pictures tell me about many of them.

Now after a couple of weeks I have 184 pages of pictures and story that brings me from my birth in 1945 to 1984 when my father celebrated his 80th birthday and we were altogether celebrating his 80 years on this earth. Included with this will be chapters that take me back in time so that I can record everyting that I know about my father and my mother and then my grandparents as I know them and even my great grandparents that my parents and grandparents talked about. A few times I will get to go further back and tell those stories. The modern age permits us to document our lives in ways that were not even possible when I was born. It was that collection of pictures of me that inspired me to do the work along with a desire to writeup my thoughts through my life and how they changed from childhood to young adulthood to motherhood and beyond.

I have begun my father's chapter already when I couldn't find this particular set of pictures mentioned on my husband's index but missing from the scans. He found them and I am back once again to my story but as I worked away on my Dad's story I realized that this might be the most important writing that I do for future generations of my parents. Three or four generations down and looking back at Ernest Blake and Helen Pincombe as their ancestors what would they know about them. Their stories need to be told so that they are not forgotten. The time that my mother was out on the Thames River helping people who were stranded during the flooding in the 30s. My father who was Chief Scout and very involved in the Scouting Movement in the 20s and 30s. So many things to write down so that I breathe life into these people so that they can be seen by their descendants generations later. 

I think my mother used to think about doing that and I was in the process of acquiring a computer for her when she passed away. Much was lost with my mother's death as she knew a great deal about her families. Some of it was written down when my husband prepared a 50th Wedding Anniversary Book for my parents. Although I did go to the LDS to collect information it was my husband really who guided that book to its completion. It too has been a great help in working on my family nearly 20 years later when the genealogy bug finally caught up with me. But I regret that it did not occur to me sooner to give my mother the ability to record her stories in her lifetime. The same could be said of my father as well as he too was quite knowledgeable on his family. Coming to Canada as a child of nine meant leaving behind all those loving grandparents, aunts and uncles and he had a lot of them. Sometimes he would talk about dancing around the maypole in Upper Clatford on May Day when he was a child but I think it brought back memories that were sad because he left.

Lots of good memories replaced that sadness but thinking back on my grandfather dying when I was eight that too was a turning point for me in life as I truly missed him; I missed his stories and the time that he spent with me.

I think I can get back to working on the Blake and Pincombe families one name studies but will need to find a pace that works for me.

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52 Ancestor Challenge - Challenge 52

Blake, King, Coleman, Pearce, Farmer, Mary (unknown), Lambden, Sarah (unknown), Knight, Ellis, Knight, Vincent, Butt, O'Ford, Arnold, Molton, Cotterell, Bartlett, Alderman, Shepherd, Sherwood, Elizabeth (unknown), Happerfield, Collins, Rawlings, Tanner, Dove, Morgan, Lywood, Lanham, unknown, Peck, Pincombe, Charley, Rowcliffe, Pearse, Rew, Moggridge, Siderfin, Kent, Gray, Hilton, Cobb, Sproxton, Routledge, Tweddle, Routledge, Routledge, (unknown) Buller, unknown, Beard, Hemsley, Welch, Brockhouse, Cheatle, unknown, unknown Taylor, unknown, Harborne, Lewis, Roberts, Croxall, Lawley, unknown

The last of the 52 Ancestor Challenges and I end it with the grandfather of my great grandmother Ellen Taylor. If Ellen was legitimate than her grandfather would have likely been unknown Taylor. I know very very little about this family in Birmingham. A vague memory as a child of my grandmother saying that her grandfather was a shoemaker. A Thomas Taylor married to Ellen Roberts does fit that description.

Over time I have purchased all the birth registrations for Ellen Taylor born in Birmingham between 1859 and 1862 because my grandmother said that her mother was 37 years old when she died of pneumonia. That death registration I do have and it does state that she was 37 years of age when she died 27 February 1897. What that means to me is that she was born between 28 February 1859 and 27 February 1860. If she had died on her birthday I am rather sure my grandmother would have mentioned that as she was just 11 when her mother died and she always spoke of the tragedy of that loss. Ellen Taylor, daughter of Thomas Taylor and Ellen Roberts was born 9 Oct 1859 at Birmingham. That would make her 37 years 4 months and 18 days old when she died 17 February 1897 if indeed Ellen Taylor, my great grandmother, was the daughter of Thomas Taylor and Ellen Roberts. The suggestion has been made to me that I should try to find her siblings which I have tried to do. Thomas and Ellen Taylor moved away from Birmingham around 1870 to Ashton under Lyne in Lancashire although Ellen and some of the children are found with her on the 1871 census in Birmingham. She is listed as a grocer so was perhaps selling off what they had in Birmingham prior to moving to Ashton under Lyne. Missing from the 1881 census the two oldest children named Thomas and Ellen.

Thomas Taylor (husband of Ellen Roberts) was baptized 27 Dec 1830 at Birmingham Saint Phillips son of Samuel Taylor and Ann Lewis Harborne and he and Ellen Roberts were married 29 Jun 1857 at Birmingham St Martin (Ellen was only 16 years of age when she married which fits the census as Thomas was 3 and Ellen 1 on the 1861 census).

Samuel Taylor had married Ann Lewis Harborne 3 Aug 1829 at Birmingham Saint Phillips. Samuel is possibly the Samuel baptized 14 Jun 1810 at Birmingham Saint Phillips son of Samuel and Sarah Taylor. This would be my 4x great grandfather but at this point it does not really seem to be a practical thing to do a lot of work on him. I need to first determine the parents of my Ellen Taylor before working backwards in time. Hence I will not list an ancestry for this particular Taylor as too much is unknown to really make that worthwhile. So I end my year of 52 Ancestor Challenges with the line about which I know the least amount. For this Taylor line I really do not know anything officially. I do have the occasional Taylor matches on autosomal DNA on all the sites but have not really attempted to do any tracing although do look at trees if they are available. The line going back from my maternal grandmother though is my mtDNA line and that is known to me and quite fortunately is a rather less common grouping of H being H11a2a1. That may eventually help to locate my maternal line which at the moment appears to have its ancient base in the Argyllshire/Ayrshire area of Scotland where it is found on the Blood of the Isles database produced by Bryan Sykes with matches also in Ireland. There is a large group that carries this same haplogroup in the United States and are descendants of Rebecca Martin married to Alexander Peden. Alexander and his wife Rebecca travelled on the James and Mary and were located at Spartanburg as a part of the 1772 migration from County Antrim Ireland to the Carolinas with the Reverend William Martin.

http://boydroots.net/downloads/MartinPassengers.pdf

One of my matches is descendant of this couple. I do not know if Rebecca Martin is related to the Reverend William Martin.

The suggested descendancy of the Peden family.

http://homepages.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~marylove/Peden/Peden.html


So ends a rather interesting year looking at my 4x great grandparents. A great deal learned about some of my people; a very worthwhile project.

I will begin next year's project on the first Monday of 2016 and it will be Charles Alexandre Bédard.

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Merry Christmas and God's blessings to all.

As a child we would have attended Christmas Eve service and again on Christmas Day. Church was the center of our lives and I wish it still was to be honest. But I must do my family duties first; I believe God would see that as well. So instead of Christmas Eve service I was busy preparing a Tourtiere for Christmas Eve dinner and then a massive cleanup. This morning I awoke early and completed the manger scene complete with Baby Jesus which I have done every year since we first set up a manger scene when our eldest daughter was just seven months old. It was a paper punch out scene but it was just as wondrous as the china scene that we now have with the wooden stable.

God bless.

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We finally had a snowfall; not a lot but it has begun. We are so used to snow that not having it seems like a bit of a shock! No skating; no skiing and even walking in the snow is fun when there isn't any ice.

Must get out shopping now that the madness of Boxing Day specials is over. Usually we do not shop on Boxing Day very much. Just too busy and we are in a downsizing mood. Interesting looking back at earlier pictures when our house was much emptier and we were young. Then we spent the next 30 years filling the house up and now we want to empty it again! Interesting concept really and perhaps these days people do less of the filling up.

The end of 2015 and I reached 70 years this year. When I was young I used to wonder what it would be like in 2015. I imagined that we would be further along with space travel. That we would know more about the universe and would be in more control of our planet in terms of protecting the environment. But it is never to late to work on that one as well.

2016 is going to be my year to get things written up. Construct a new path for my one name studies and keep up with my emails which have climbed to 50 in my inbox that need to be answered. For some I just cannot decide how to answer them. Now that I have so much material online I get queries from all around the world wondering why I came up with the thoughts that I did. So many people want to be related to Admiral Robert Blake. I am beginning to wonder if I am the only person in the world who does not mind being related to just the people that I actually am related to! I have no interest in trying to match myself up to any famous ancestors. I just think that is unlikely. My grandfather Blake always said we were not related to Admiral Blake and that is certainly good enough for me. I do not think we are either.

It is just so much fun to find the people that I am related to that trying to work through a maze reaching out to 20th cousins just doesn't really appeal to me.

The next 52 ancestor Challenge and likely I will not repeat that exercise again for a while but it just seemed like an opportune time to relook at all those French Canadian ancestors, my husband's colonial ancestors that I was really tempted to do that.

For myself I continue with my story and I am up to 1992 and over 400 pages. There are hundreds and hundred of pictures included as I decided the best way to tell one's story is in pictures especially given that both my husband and my father were avid picture takers. I also thought that in the future one is more likely to pick up a story about the pictures than to sit and look at the 30 family picture albums that we put together throughout our 50 years of marriage. Yes indeed this year we will be married 50 years. I was 20 when we married and it does seem like a long long time ago. Memories of my life before marriage have faded a great deal plus that house has not been my parent's home for over 40 years so no constant remembrance there.

How to celebrate such an anniversary; it will be with a month long trip through the British Isles (escorted tour) and we are looking forward to doing that.

All in all 2016 looks to be a rather interesting year. I have one lecture left to give and it is a joint lecture with John Reid (he will be the principal speaker) and it is a 2 hour workshop on DNA at the Ottawa Public Library Saturday, January 30th.

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New Year's resolutions and this is something I have never really done so probably will not start now.

However, I do intend to have this next workshop/lecture my last one.

Other than that I plan to do my 52 Ancestor Challenge starting on Monday.

Charles Alexandre Bedard (1837 - 1914)

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This years 52 Ancestor Challenge looks at another set of 4x great grandparents. All are known precisely except for my maternal grandmother's mother's parents although there is a thought about whom they might be expressed in the 52nd blog of the 52 Ancestor Challenge of 2015 written by me. There are images for 8 of the 64 4x great grandparents. There are images for 20 of the 32 3x great grandparents. There are images for 14 of the 16 2x great grandparents. One of my pursuits has been to try to find images of the missing 2x great grandparents and the 12 3x great grandparents. This blog will hopefully assist me somewhat in that regard. I have met a number of descendants of the two 2x great grandparents but no images yet. They lived in northern Ontario in a small village (born there, lived there and died there) so it will just be a matter of luck perhaps finding their images. Going back the next generation, I am missing all 8 of the paternal, paternal lines and one of the paternal, maternal lines. My husband's are complete and I am missing three of my 2x great grandparents. Pictures of two of them are perhaps with my Great Aunt Sarah Winters family as my Grandmother mentioned that possibility. I think she had given them to Sarah when Sarah went to Chicago to live with their half sister and her husband and children as a nursemaid. Having the images of these ancestors gives such a visual boost to their stories.

It is likely that I shall work straight through all of these individuals with my husband and I working together on his sixteen 2x great grandparents. Most of mine will not be included as I have looked at them already last year but I will look at my paternal grandmothers adopted father's parents and my Taylor line will end out the year once again and one hopes that my knowledge of this line may have increased and perhaps I will be able to say that Thomas Taylor and Ellen Roberts were my 2x great grandparents. Which would be a wonderful state to be in!

The Taylor family of my paternal grandmother were the family that we corresponded with when I was a child and very important to this grandmother. To all extents and purposes William Taylor was her father. He signed as a witness at her marriage and I suspect would willingly have been named as father but the marriage registrations were restrictive to natural father.

52 Ancestor Challenge - Challenge 1

Bédard, Whelan, Matte, Gagnon, Mourier, Bertrand, Neveu, Audet dite Lapointe, Grégoire, Seguin dit Ladéroute, Tremblay, Labelle, Lauzon, Brunet, Wathier dit Lanoix, Rhéaume, Dumoulin, Renaud, Larente dit Vinet, Cadieux, Clément, Charlebois, Breault dit Pommanville, Pilon, Prévost, Desjardins, Deschâtelets, Quesnel, Lagarde dit St-Jean, Lavigne, Chénier, Racine, Kipp, Mead, Force, Schram, Schultz, Passow, Niemann, Dûsing, Link, Abbs, Rathbun, Hotrum, Allen, Crouse, Parlee, Folkins, Blake, Farmer, Knight, Butt, Taylor, Pinnells, Rawlings, Lywood, Pincombe, Rew, Gray, Routledge, Buller, Welch, unknown Taylor, unknown

Charles Alexandre Bédard was baptized 19th Jun 1837 at Notre-Dame Cathedral in Qubec City. He was also born on that date. His baptismal entry in the parish register (page 132, Baptism 370):

Le dix neuf Juin mil huit cent trente sept
nous prêtre, de Québec soussigné, avons baptisté
Charles Alexandre, né le jour même du légi-
time mariage de Pierre Bedard, menuitier,
et de Josephte Patry, de cette ville. Parrain
Louis Tessier; marraine Louise Desroches, qui,
ainsi que la père a signé avec nous; la parrain
a déclaré ne savoir signer

Louise Deroche
Pierre Bedard        Ant Campeau Ptre

Pierre Bedard, the father of Charles, was a carpenter (menuitier) we can take from this baptism. The early life of Charles is unknown but he was the twelfth child baptized by Pierre Bedard and Marie Josephte Patry and they would baptize a thirteenth child two years later in 1839 also in Quebec City.

Children all baptized at Notre Dame Cathedral. The now Basilica (so elevated in 1874) is the third church on this site. The first was built in 1647 and destroyed during the Siege of Quebec in 1759. It was rebuilt and it was in this rebuilt church that Charles was baptized in in 1837 along with his siblings.

Pierre baptized 28 May 1820
Jacques baptized 3 Dec 1821
Marie Josephte baptized 12 Aug 1823
Joseph Marie Flore baptized 8 May 1825
Rosalie baptized 8 May 1825
Francois baptized 10 Jul 1826
Scholastique baptized 5 Oct 1828
Eugenie Emelie Maximilien baptized 11 Oct 1830
Genevieve Rebecca baptized 11 Oct 1830
Louis Stanislas baptized 25 Nov 1832
Thomas Isidore baptized 25 Mar 1835
Charles Alexandre baptized 19 Jun 1837
Helene Joseph baptized 1 Aug 1839

These children are all in the seventh generation of this Bedard family in Quebec. I decided that I would like to look at Charles Alexandre Bedard and see what I could discover about him. I made a trip to Library and Archives Canada to check the Ottawa City directories and did find Charles listed as a carpenter throughout the period from the early 1870s into the 1900s He is last found with his youngest son Alexander living in Ottawa in 1914. I also wanted to verify the dates of baptism/birth for each of his siblings. That I have done through Ancestry online. At some point I will check the directories for Quebec City to see if I can learn anything more about Charles there. His actual date of movement to Ottawa is unknown except that the third child of Charles and Emelie was baptized in Ottawa 17 Mar 1871. The second child Eugene was born in 1867 and I hae not yet found his baptism. The eldest child Marie Philomene Letitia was baptized 2 Jun 1864 in Quebec City. I wondered if Charles had moved to Ottawa to work on the Parliament Buildings and there are no records of individuals but rather of companies. He does seem to be self-employed throughout his carpentry career so impossible to tell it would seem. He does however live in the area around the parliament buildings for most of his working career in Ottawa. There would have been a lot of work for a carpenter though in Ottawa in that time frame in that area.

Pierre Bedard has signed the baptismal lines for all of his children. Although it would be interesting to look at all of these siblings of Charles Alexandre Bedard I have decided to move backward and look at Pierre Bedard and trace that line back to the emigrant Isaac Bedard who came to Quebec City with two sons Jacques and Louis.

Pierre Bedard married Marie Josephte Patry 15 Jun 1819 at Notre Dame in Quebec City. Marriage lines for this couple found on page 73 and is marriage number 54 in this year:

Le quinze juin mil huit cent dix neuf apres la pubication de trois bans
de mariage faite au prone de nos Messe paroissiales entre Pierre
Bedard menuiere domicile en cette ville fils majeur de Jacques Stanislas Bedard
et la marie petitclair du cette paroisse d'une part et Josephte Patrie
domicilie en cette ville fille majeure de Pierre Patri cultivateur et Marie
Girard de la paroise de Beaumont d'autre part; consentante ne l'etant
decouvert aucun empechement Nous Pretre aure de Quebec Lavigne
avons recu leur mutuel consentement et leurs aurons donne la benediction
nuptielle en presence de Jacques Stanislas Bedard pere
de Jacques Bedard frere et de Presque Bedard oncle
paternel de l'epoux; de Pierre Patri pere, d'Etienne Patri
et Joseph Patri freres d'Etienne Michel et Joseph Girard
oncles maternels de l'epouse dont quelques uns ont signe
avec nous et l'epoux; et les autres, ansi que l'epouse ont
declare ne la savoir faire Deux mots

Pierre Bedard
Jacques Bedard
Presque Bedard

Gignay pretre Cure de Quebec

The marriage lines for Pierre declare him to be the son of Jacques Stanislas Bedard and a baptism can be found for Pierre 9 Jan 1795 at Notre-Dame in Quebec City son of Jacques Jean Stanislas Bedard and Marie Josephte Petitclerc as mentioned in the marriage lines.

Le dix neuf janvier mil sept cent quatre vingt quinze par nous
sousigne pretre vicaire de cette paroisse a ete Baptise Pierre
ne d'heir au soir du legiteme marriage de Jacques Stanislas Bedard et de
Maria Josephte  Leparrain a ete Pierre Tyrion et la marrain
Elizabeth Bedard les quel ont declare ne savoir signer ainsi que le pere
Jacques Stanislas un mot ____ nul

C: Berthelet pretre

Unusually the maiden name of the mother was not stated in this baptism.

The marriage of Jacques Jean Stanislas Bedard to Marie Josephte Petitclerc was celebrated at Ste Foy Quebec 14 Nov 1791.

L'an mil sept cent quatre vingt onze le quatorze novembre
apres la publication de trois bans de mariage faits par
trois dimanches consecutifs aux prones des grandes Messes
de cette paroisse entre Jean Stanislas Bedard fils de joseph
Bedard and de Elizabeth Bertaume pere et mere
en cette paroisse d'une part et marie joseph petitclaire fille
de feu charles petit clair et de marie francoise Carrie Les
pere et mere aussi de cette paroisse d'autre part ne l'etant trouve
aucun empechement civil or cananique au di mariage je
soussigne pretre Cure de Ste Foye leur ai donne la benediction
nuptielle

I shall work away at these transcriptions through the week. Since I am transcribing in French it will take me time to do this so will spend the week working away on these challenges instead of publishing each Monday.

Decision Time

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I have made a decision that I will step back from my one name studies for a couple of months. I have a couple of projects that I simply want to do and the one name studies do not add anything to those projects. I will maintain the yDNA study and answer correspondence as it works in. I am owing a few emails at the moment but I will not carry out any more one name study research for the  moment. I will return to it in April.

I have one commitment to help with a workshop on DNA the 30th of January and I am starting to prepare those slides but other than that my focus is on writing the story of my family as I  know it. I have actually completed my own story to the present although need now to go back in and add the "personal part" that I can find in my correspondence to my mother for over 15 years and other correspondents namely my cousin Ivan in England over a twenty year period and my Great Aunt Sarah for about five years. I have both sides of correspondence with my mother as she returned my letters to me.

All the Best of the New Year to everyone. I will continue with the 52 ancestor challenge although perhaps the detail will be added where missing over the year particularly for the French Canadian ancestors as I need trips to Library and Archives Canada to flesh out that information.

52 Ancestor Challenge

January 10, 2016, 5:56 pm

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I do not have enough time at the moment to carry on with the 52 Ancestor Challenge. I will begin again in 2017 with the same group. I want to write this year on my own family lines. I do intend to return to transcription in April on my one-name studies.

Blake Newsletter Volume 5 Issue 1 2016

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Blake Newsletter Volume 5 Issue 1 2016

Table of Contents 

1.   Delayed issue

2.   Galway Blake family 
3.   Blake one name study 
4.   Cornwall Blake family 
5.   Family Finder Results

1 Delayed Issue

The busyness of life has resulted in my actually forgetting to post this issue of the Blake Newsletter. Happy New Year to all readers albeit a somewhat delayed good wish. Not being prone to having New Years Resolutions I should perhaps consider having the newsletter always be on time as one perhaps. This Volume #5 will continue on as the earlier 4 volumes with just the two pages unless I receive items to put in.

2 Galway Blake Family

After the first of April I shall return once again to working on the Galway Blake Family. A bout of illness through November and December made me rethink my priorities and I decided I simply had to draw my own family history together and publish books on myself, my parents, my grandparents, etc. That way all my information would be gathered together in one place along with all the pictures that I have from these earlier generations. In my own case I felt that descendants of my parents reading through my notes is unlikely and so my history was written of nearly 900 pages thus far including many many pictures. I am still in that process which is why it will be the first of April before I return to active one name study research.

3 Blake one name study

No new information on the Blake one name study other than new members in the DNA study most of whom are testing Family Finder. Personally I think this is the way ahead in the future for family research although the yDNA test for the male line will always be the most important DNA test to do.

4 Cornwall Blake family

The Cornwall Blake family continues to be a question mark in my mind. I can not decide if I should publish what I have found or simply store it along with the rest of the one name study material. No one has tested their yDNA that can trace their Blake line back to Cornwall. 

5 Family Finder Results

I continue working on a method to display Family Finder results. Only a sufficient number of individuals in my own line have tested Family Finder so that such a display at the moment would not be helpful to the project. 

Any suggestions or information to add to the next newsletter please submit to: kippeeb@rogers.com

Pincombe-Pinkham Newsletter Volume 1 Issue 2

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Pincombe-Pinkham Newsletter

Volume 1, Issue 2          1 Mar 2016

Table of Contents

1.   Pincombe Family at North Molton

2.   Will of Johanne Pencombe

3.   yDNA study

1.   Pincombe Family at North Molton

North Molton Parish Records
(Fiche purchased from Devon Record Office)

Baptisms

Pincombe Henrye       son Pincombe    George  Dorothie 1602 Dec19

Pincombe Thomas      son Pincombe    Thomas               1616Mar   30

Pincombe William son PincombeThomas     Joan         1639Mar   31

Pincombe Thomas son Pincombe Thomas   Joan         1641Apr    14

Pincombe Richarde son Pincome         Thomas     Joan         1644Nov   10

Pincombe Johnson Pincome Thomas          Joan         1644Nov   10

Pincombe Frances dau Pincome Bartholomew Frances         1647Dec   12

Pincombe Robart son PincombeThomas     Joan         1648Jan   21

Pincombe Richorde dau Pincombe BartholomewJoan1649Feb   19

Pincombe John son Pincombe    Bartholomew     Joane 1654 Nov27

Pincombe Thomas son Pincombe Thomas                      1670Oct   18

Pincombe Mary daughter Pincombe Thomas        Agnis 1677 Apr  8

Pincombe Joane dau Pincombe William       Johane      1681Oct   11

Pincombe William son PincombeWilliam       Joane        1683Sep   18

Pincombe Johnson Pincombe    William       Joane        1685Oct   27

Pincombe Johnson Pincombe    John          Elizabeth   1686Mar   30

Pincombe Robert son PincombeWilliam       Joane        1687May  5

Pincombe Thomas son Pincombe John        Elizabeth   1688Jul    11

Pincombe Elizabeth dau Pincombe      JohnElizabeth   1689Jul    20

Pincombe Richard son Pincombe         Richard     Thomzine  1695Feb   21

Pincombe William son Pincombe                    Thomazine         1699Aug   25

Marriages

Groom Pincombe

PyncombeJohnHodge        Emet1560Jul    1

PyncombeWilliam       Gregorye   Margret     1564Nov   26

Pincombe  Thomas     Smith         Joan1635Apr    28

Pincombe  William       Cole  Joane        1674Feb   9

Pincombe  William       MooremanMary1689Sep   24

Bride Pincombe

__ydon       Phillip        Pincumbe  Margret     1539Nov   15

Locke        William       PyncombeAles  1561Nov   29

Squire        William       PyncombeMargerett  1567May  26

Squire        George      PyncombeMary1567Jul    20

Holloway Richard Pincombe        Thomazine         1688Jan   3

Mallary      Nicholas Pincombe    Mrs. Temperance        1681Jun   9

Burials

PyncombeMarye        daughter   PyncombeJohn          1555Dec   7

PyncombeMarye        daughter   PyncombeJohn          1563Feb   3

PyncombeElizabeth   wife  PyncombeWilliam                1563Feb   18

PyncombeWilliam                                                       1564Sep   13

PyncombeWilliam                                                       1565Mar   25

PyncombeThomas                                                     1651Dec   8

Pincomb    Joan                                                 1633Jan   15              

Pincomb    William                                                       1637Jan   29              

Pincombe  George                                                      1610Jan   19              

Pincombe  Dorothie    widow                                              1610Feb   2                

Pincombe  William son         Pincombe  Thomas     Katherine  1624Dec   7                

Pincombe  Katherine  wife  Pincombe  Thomas               1636Feb   5                

Pincombe  Elizabeth                                                   1645Oct   13              

Pincombe  Bartholomew                                                     1656Dec   24              

Pincombe  Richorde   dau   Pincombe  Bartholomew Joan 1657 May 21          

Pincombe  Frances dau Pincombe Bartholomew (deceased) Joane        1657May          27              

Pincombe  Thomas     son   Pincombe  Thomas     1670Dec   2                

Pincombe  John                                                 1673Apr    5                

Pincombe  Robert                                                       1678Jan   31              

Pincombe  Thomas                                                     1682Aug   8                

Pincombe  Johnson   Pincombe  William       Joane        1685Dec   12              

Pincombe  Robert       son   Pincombe  William       Joane 1687 Nov5                

Pincombe  Thomas     son   Pincombe  John Elizabeth  1688Jul    14              

Pincombe  Joane        wife  Pincombe  William                1688Jul    25              

Pincombe  William       son   Pincombe  William       Joane 1688 Jan31              

Pincombe  John                                                 1689Jan   9                

Pincombe  Joane        widow                                              1690Apr    6                

Pincombe  Elizabeth   wife  Pincombe  Richard      1693Jul    2       of East Buckland

Will of Johanne Pencombe

Source: Public Record Office, London, UK, PROB 11/76 - Image reference 242/207

Place: East Buckland, Devon, England

Type of Record: Will

Dated: 7 May 1563

Condition: photocopy, bold, old English writing

[In margin] T[estator] Johanne Pencombe

1    In the name of God, Amen.  In the yeare

2    of our Lord God one thousand fyve hundred sixtie three and in the seaventh daie

3    of Maye That I Johane Pencombe widdowe of Est Buckland beinge of whole mynde

4    and in good remembrance (lauded be god) make and ordaine this my last will and

5    testament in this manner and forme followinge First I bequeathe my soule unto

6    allmightie God and my bodie to be buried in the Churche of Est Buckland there Item

7    I bequeath unto Richard Pencombe my sonne twentie poundes And to his sonne a

8    heafer of three yeares of age. Item I bequeath to John Locke my sonne in Law nyne

9    poundes. Item I bequeath to John Pencombe my sonne nyne poundes And to his

10    daughter a heafer. Item I bequeath to John Jasse my sonne in Lawe nyne poundes

11    Item I bequeath to John Jasse the younger six poundes thirteene shillings four pence

12    Item to Anne Takle twentie shillings Item to Amye Rolle six shillings eight pence

13    Item to Roberte Hollaniore a yearlinge Item to Thomas Hichton a ewe. Item to everie

14    of my Children's Children five shillinges eight pence. Item unto every of my godchildren

15    twelve pence apeece. Item to the poore twentie shillings. The residue of all my goodes

16    and everie parte thereof as well moveable as unmoveable not gyven nor bequeathed I give

17    and bequeath unto William Pencombe my sonne whome I make my executor and he to

18    bestowe it as he seemeth best And alsoe I devise and ordaine Sir John Taye John Hartill

19    and Richard Lympstable to be my overseers and wittnesses of this my last will and Testament

21    Probatum fuit Testamentum

22    Suprascriptum apud London coram venerabili, viro mag[ist]ro Will[iel]mo Levin Legium

23    Doctore ad exercend officium magisteri custodis sive Comissarii Curie Prerogative

24    Cant ltime deputat vicesimo tertio die mensis Octobris Anno Domini millesimo quin

25    Nonagesimo Juramento Thome Redman notary public procuratoris Willi[a]m Pencombe filii of

26    Executoris in h[uius]mo[d]i testamento nominat Qui commissa fuit administerato bonorum iurium et creditorum

27    Dicti defuncti de bene et fideliter administerand ad sancta dei Evangelia Jurat

3.      yDNA Study

The yDNA Study for the Pincombe/Pinkham family continues to be an evolving study with a few new people having joined with autosomal results. With five descendants of the Robert Pincombe/Elizabeth Rowcliffe currently in the study it is possible to link individuals to the Bishops Nympton Pincombe family if they match any or all of these individuals.

I will report at a longer length in the next newsletter which will be published the 1^st of June 2016.

Any material which you may wish to submit for the newsletter can be sent to

kippeeb@rogers.com

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Finally I have a DNA Circle at AncestryDNA with the descendants of Robert Pincombe and Elizabeth Rowcliffe. Each of the members descends from three different sons of this couple. Robert and Elizabeth had eight children - 7 sons and 1 daughter. We descend from the eldest son Robert, the second eldest son John and the youngest son Philip. Richard, second youngest, did not have any children, William the third son died young. Thomas the fourth son died in a shipwreck with his wife and children coming to Canada. The only son not mentioned was George, the fifth son, whose family stayed in England while he went to Australia where he died. This is an amazing happening to have this DNA circle for the Pincombe family.

There are ten or more trees on Ancestry for the Pincombe family and it will be interesting to see the final DNA Circle once all that material is digested by the search engines. There are errors in some people's trees and perhaps this will be an opportunity to repair those errors if people wish to do so. One of the reasons for my doing the one name study of the Pincombe family is to clear up the mistakes that were created over time by various trees that were produced.

The next issue of the Pincombe newsletter should certainly have some interesting copy.

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Blake Newsletter

Volume 5 Issue 2

 

Table of Contents

1.   Writing up the family story

2.   yDNA tester from Somerset, England

3.   Family Finder Summary

4.   Return to active Blake research

1.   Writing up the family story

The editor, Elizabeth (Blake) Kipp, has taken a leave of absence to write up her family story. With high hopes of completing back to the 4x great grandparents I am still deep into the collateral lines coming down from my great grandparents. The process when it began on the 12^th of December 2015 was simply to write up what I have complete with all the images of documents acquired and photographs. As the days passed it became more and more complicated as I uncovered vast amounts of material that I had set aside for just such a moment. I scanned nearly 1000 pages of letters from my mother to me over a 25 year period which greatly enhanced the family story for future generations of my parents/grandparents. Another 500 pages of letters sent to my grandfather/father from their siblings/cousins in England also proved to add greatly to the stories. The interesting part about my family is that we (my siblings and myself) are the only descendants of our parents and our grandparents making for an hour glass image of these generations as they move both forward and back in time.

2.   yDNA tester from Somerset, England

We now have in our study an individual who has done his yDNA with known roots in Somerset, England. I actually never postulated any possible results for this individual in my mind. As the readers know, I am of the opinion that the Blake surname has arisen in various places in England for reasons totally unknown to me at this moment in time. Finding all the Blake entries on the 1330-1550 England’s Emigrant Database opened my eyes to the possibilities for Blake descendants into the 21^st century. I expect a lot of variety and the results do not disappoint. Since this individual belongs to E-L117 haplogroup one is left to consider the possibility that he is a descendant of a member of the Roman Legions who lived in the Balkans. Thank you very much to the individual who has done the test.

3.   Family Finder Summary

I still have not created a publishable summary of the Family Finder Results in the Blake Study. Fourty two members of the group have completed this testing. The individuals who are matching the most are people related to me with one section of them descendant of the Blake family at Upper Clatford/Andover (Hampshire, England). There is a second group that is descendant of Theophilus Blake. There are several groups of two individuals. I shall continue to investigate how I can display these results in a meaningful way.

4.   Return to active Blake research

I shall now be returning to more active research on our Blake one name study as I consider all of you to be part of the adventure of looking at the Blake family around the world. I also hope to start blogging once again with some of my finds on Blake and will continue the transcriptions of the Prerogative Court of Canterbury Wills. I shall continue to publish just two pages unless I receive copy that pertains to our one name study that I believe will interest Blake members.

Elizabeth Kipp, kippeeb@rogers.com

Member: Guild of one name studies, Member #4600

Blog: http://kippeeb.blogspot.ca/

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December 5, 2016, 5:00 pm

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I had not downloaded the image of the family charts produced by the earlier researchers so did not realize their quality. I have now done so and will work at improving the quality of the images in the newsletters. The pages are half of a bulletin board size so can not be scanned on my home scanner readily. A different type of photography might work. They are quite legible for me and I have put a couple of them into Legacy. Gradually I will add that to the relevant newsletter as I am able to enter the material into Legacy. I am using Find My Past to verify all the material (and Ancestry) so that dates may not always agree with the original charts.

Wills for the Blake family

December 6, 2016, 6:39 pm

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I will once again return to blogging the will of the Blake family completing the last two that I have from the Gloucestershire Record Office:

William Blake 1804 Dursley
William Blake 1820 Prestbury

It is nearly two years since I left my wills project and a year and a half since I looked at my census project. I intend to return to both and will be blogging the wills on my blog commencing the beginning of January. Whether or not I will publish the legacy charts that I produce from the census and parish records remains ambivalent in my mind.

To date no one in the Cornwall Blake family which traces back to the 1500s in the parish registers has tested their yDNA and has joined the Blake yDNA project. The presence of a Blake from Breton in Cornwall prior to the beginning of the parish registers is very interesting but it is not my family so I hesitate to make statments with regard to the ancestry of the Blake family there without DNA evidence. I will however produce the charts for the study and when I retire they will be archived with the Guild of one name studies.

I will be publishing the Blake Newsletter, Volume 6 Issue 1 in early January (possibly the first as usual).

Wills still to be transcribed

December 8, 2016, 10:10 am

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Just before I return to the wills for transcribing, I decided to create an ongoing list of what I still have to complete that I have copies for transcription. I may for the moment go alphabetical until I find that I need to follow another flow. Blake will continue to be my high priority. 

Blake Wills 394

Hertfordshire 4
Huntingdonshire 2
Lancashire4
Lincolnshire 3
London 41
Middlesex 145
Miscellaneous 81
Norfolk 16
Northamptonshire 6
Northumberland 4
Nottinghamshire 1
Oxfordshire 12
Rutland 4
Shropshire 1
Suffolk 11
Surrey 45
Sussex 6
Warwickshire 6
Worcestershire 1

Other surnames 132

Abbs 1
King 17
Kingdon 1
Kip 3
Locke 7
Burges 1
Butt 1
Carter 3
Chorley-Churley-Charley 15
Coffin 3
Knight 2
Lambden 5
Moggeridge-Modridg-Moggridge 6
Question 3
Quirke 1
Rawlings-Rawlins 12
Robson 2
Rolles 3
Siderfin 3
Snowe 5
Tapp 1
Thomas 3
Upcott 3
Vicary 6

I have also acquired a number of wills which includes primarily Blake at Record Offices (not PCC which all the above Blake are)

namely from Dorset, Hampshire, London, Westminster, Gloucestershire Record Offices

446 wills

Family Search I still have 42 wills to transcribe

Total number of wills is an amazing number:   900+ wills

I continue to write up my own family history and I am now working on my 2x great grandparents and all of their children. I have almost finished my paternal side. I am bringing everyone as close to the present as possible in order to make use of my matches at the various DNA sites where I have tested myself and my siblings.   I am also working on recreating my parents and grandparents DNA. A fascinating trip through time that has quite captured my interest as well.

Will of William Blake, gentleman, Saint MIchael, Bristol, Gloucestershire - The National Archives PROB 11/2175/217, probated 9 Jul 1853

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William Blake, gentleman, Saint Michaels Hill, Bristol is the testator. He does not name any family in this will.

His executrix Hester Manfield Rogers is possibly Hester Rogers, house keeper to William Jones who kept a lodging house on Park Lane. She was born at Nailsea Somerset and was 45 years of age.

His witness Stephen Shallard is living at 66 Upper Church Lane St Michaels Parish and he was 55 years of age and a pattern maker on the 1851 census born at Bitten Gloucestershire.

On the 1841 Census there is one Blake family living in Saint Michael Parish, Salmon Street near Little Paul Street.


John Blake, 35, M S, not born in Gloucestershire
Anne Blake, 35, , born in Gloucestershire
John Blake, 11, , born in Gloucestershire
Alfred Blake, 10, , born in Gloucestershire
William Blake, 7, , born in Gloucestershire

Probably not this family but interesting to find a Blake family nearby.


The Family Bible given away to Mary Jane Rogers would certainly be an interesting find!

Transcriber: Elizabeth Kipp
Recorded: 15 May 2014
Source: The National Archives, PROB 11/2175/217
Testator:  William Blake, gentleman
Place: Parish of Saint Michael, Bristol, Gloucestershire, England
Type of Record: Will
Date of document: 2 Mar 1853, probated 9 Jul 1853
Condition: 19th century English, legible copy

[Margin]: William
[Margin]: Blake
[Margin]: 5

1    This is the Last Will and Testament
2    of me William Blake of Saint Michaels Hill in the Parish of Saint Michael
3    in the City of Bristol Gentleman I give and bequeath unto Elanor the wife of Wil-
4    liam Coram of Paul Street Kingsdown in the City of Bristol the sum of Ten pounds
5    and I do hereby declare that the said sum shall be paid to her for her absolute use
6    notwithstanding her coverture and that her receipt alone shall be the only effectual
7    discharge to my Executrix hereinafter mentioned for the same I give unto Joseph
8    Coram of Paul Street aforesaid Accountant the sum of Five pounds I give unto
9    Mary Ann Hodges of Saint Michaels Hill aforesaid Spinster the sum of Nineteen
10    pounds ten shillings I give unto William Green of the City of Bristol Cutler the sum
11    of Five pounds I give unto Joseph Willis of Baldwin Street in the said City of
12    Bristol the sum of Five pounds I give unto Henry Lake of the Parish of Clifton in
13    the City of Bristol the sum of Five pounds I give unto Robert Gibbs of the said
14    City Accountant the sum of Five pounds I give and bequeath my large Imperial
15    Family Bible unto Mary Jane Rogers of Saint Michaels Hill aforesaid And I do
16    hereby direct the said pecuniary Legacies to be paid to the Legatees respectively within
17    three months next after my decease And as to all the rest residue and
18    remainder of my real and personal estate and effects whatsoever and wheresoever
19    after payment of my just debts funeral and testamentary expences I give devise and
20    bequeath the same unto Hester Manfield Rogers of the Parish of Saint Michael
21    aforesaid Spinster her heirs executors administrators and assigns And I do hereby ap-
22    point the said Hester Manfield Rogers sole Executrix of this my Will In witness
23    whereof I the said William Blake have to this my Will subscribed my hand this
24    Second day of March one thousand eight hundred and fifty three William
25    Blake Signed by the said Testator William Blake and acknowledged by him
26    to be his last Will and Testament in the presence of us present at the same time who
27    in his presence at his request and in the presence of each other have hereunto
28    subscribed our names as witnesses John Young Tailor St Thomas Bridge
29    Bristol Stephen Shallard Pattern Maker Upper Church Lane H__________
30    Bristol
31    Proved at London 9th July 1853 before the Judge by the oath of Hester
32    Manfield Rogers Spinster the sole Executrix to whom Admon was granted having
33    been first sworn by Comon duly to administer